my thoughts on installing drywall when you’re working with wonky walls

Ok, I don’t know about you, but when someone says they’re going to write about installing drywall … not that I know anyone who does that but me … I get all “oh yay”, “that’s super”, “I don’t know a more exciting topic”. Ummm, asphalt maybe?  ;)

Hopefully you note the sarcasm in there.  I don’t know, it just seems so blah.  But for some reason it has kind of become my thing around here.  People that come in ask who did our drywall (ok, so it’s only family and they’re obligated to over-admire, it’s a requirement of visiting) and walk up and touch the walls (for an awkwardly long period of time) and squint and look for seams and cracks and imperfections.

While I pray they don’t notice the little areas that I’m pretty sure only I know about.

It’s true, I don’t think any wall can ever truly be perfect, but what I’ve come to figure out over the years is that it’s just one big mask for any other imperfect surface.

And who doesn’t like a masquerade ball?  It’s like our house is always ready to just hop into a fancy dress and party the night away … and no is the wiser that this newly vaulted space in our living room used to be a dreary little porch.

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How’s that for an unexciting process shot?

Picture me saying “Hey, wanna see my big white wall?”.  ;)

But the amount of work that went in to getting us here is pretty awesome, which might help explain the extra-long length of this post.  And the thing with spackling is that it takes time.  An irritating long period of wait time between coats, especially when you’re working with wonky walls … a lot more on that in a minute.

Joel keeps saying to people “Yeah, she knows how to make the wall end up looking great, but I’m not sure she’s the most efficient at it”.

Love you too, man.  :)

But from the outsider who jaunts off to the office every morning and then returns after 10 hours or so looking for mind-blowing progress … this is definitely not one of those projects.

So let’s take a look at what she looked like all ready for drywall.

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Wonky, right?!?!

The wood slat siding is typical of exterior siding so it doesn’t lay flat, they overlap each other, creating different depths.  The required hurricane straps I’m sure will be awesome during a storm but didn’t really do many any favors when it came to attaching drywall … it only took me a few times trying to screw into the metal straps to learn that.  :)

And the new 2 x 6 window frames for the most part lined up with pretty much nothing. That’s an exaggeration, but just further evidence that you can take a wonky wall and put a mask on her and she’s ready for the ball primer and paint.

I can actually install the first row of drywall by myself.  The technique I’ve grown to prefer is to just cut the sheet of drywall to the right length and cut out any outlet holes and then screw it to the wall and cut around the windows after … less imperfect measuring on my part always equals a good thing.

With the sheet installed I just measure how far down the window opening needs to be.

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Then I use my drywall square (similar to this oneaffiliate link) and line it up with the edge of the window frame and use the measurements right on the square to know how far down I need to cut.

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I just hold the square in place at the bottom with my foot and run my utility knife right up it to score a line, but you could mark it first … my lines are always straighter if I use the square as a guide.

After I do that on both sides of the window I go back with the utility knife and cut all the way through the drywall.  This usually takes a few passes.

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Then I reach in behind the drywall and score a line on the back along the bottom of the window.  Remember, this doesn’t have to be perfect, it is all going to get covered with trim.  #ihearttrim

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With the side cuts going all the way through the drywall and the scored line on the back side of the bottom you can bend the drywall out from the window and it will break along that bottom score line and then just cut the paper on the front with your utility knife.

It is really faint but you can kind of see where the break mark shows you where to cut the drywall along the bottom.

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Until that point I had only screwed in the drywall around the perimeter of the sheet, now it’s easy to screw it in around the window frame, too.  I’m using a new Ryobi Impact Driver that I am in love with.  It’s part of the 18 volt lithium battery line.

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My dad says the professionals usually start with the top row of drywall so there is a manufactured edge along the ceiling, easier for spackling, and even the smallest of baseboard is usually installed in any house so the manufactured edge is necessary on the bottom.

I had three comments to that, 1) I’m not a professional (I just play one on the internet), 2) we’re installing crown molding so all of the edges where the walls meet the ceiling will be covered up, and 3) I can manage the first row of drywall all by my girl self so if it means getting started that’s what this girl’s gonna do.  :)

If only it were a perfect DIY home improvement world.

And speaking of imperfection, remember those hurricane straps and how they did me no favors during this drywall process?

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Turns out the straps all run inconveniently through the 8 foot high mark on the wall. Which is how high two sheet so of drywall are on top of each other.  So unfortunately we needed to cut off about 6 inches from each sheet on that row.  And you know what that means.  :/

We cut them so we could screw them in along this seam that runs the entire width of the wall.

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Here’s a closer view.

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And then when Joel and I were laying the third row above that with the nice manufactured edge, Joel saw the difference and said “glad I’m not in charge of the drywall”.

Again, love you man!

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But, what I did end up not hating was this manufactured edge and butt joint combo.

So much easier in my opinion that two butt joints.

Basically it’s just more build-out over a farther length of drywall on the manufactured edge side and very thin coats on the butt joint side.

I know it’s impossible to really see in this picture (because I’m a mad drywaller) but the original seam between the two sheets of drywall is much closer to the lower end of the spackle than in the middle of it.

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And here’s a close up of what it looked like after my first coat of spackle, I didn’t even bother to smooth out the top part of spackle (over the manufactured edge) because I knew a few more layers were needed to actually build it out to the depth of the butt joint.

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And you don’t want to make each individual coat too thick or they will just crack.  Ask me how I know.  ;)

Daily, or twice daily layers to get to the depth you need do you good.

And one other area that we didn’t touch on in my original drywall posts (here and here) is the always interesting outside corner.  Dun dun dunnnnn.  ;)

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When it came to drywalling I actually kind of forgot about this little edge at the end of the partial wall that is right inside our front door.  I was thinking maybe we would cover it with a trim board, but since the walls on either side of it are different heights, thanks to our newly vaulted ceiling in the vestibule, drywall was a much simpler option.

After I had my little pieces of drywall installed I just used these plastic pieces to give a nice clean edge to each corner.  You can find them near all of the other drywall supplies at your home improvement store.

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They come in 10 foot lengths and they are easy to cut to length.  I just use scissors through both sides.

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Then just bend and snip the corner.

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To install you just screw through those holes on either side to attach it.  Super easy, really.  Just don’t over-screw in the screws and create bumps in the plastic.  You can see here how the right side laid nice and flat for me but the left gave me some trouble.  I just kept adding screws until I knew the little bubbles were small enough to get covered with the spackle.

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The larger spackle knife worked better on this small edge since I could just run it up the wall and the two corner pieces with the long knife worked to create a flat edge.

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A couple things I was reminded of along the way:

  • Don’t take too much time on the first coat of spackle, I always try to get really particular with it and then when I’m doing my second coat I think “man, I wasted all that time because it just gets covered up anyway?”.  Just be sure you have enough spackle under any taped seams to secure it don’t leave any thick edges. (Kind of like the thick edge I showed you above, so you can break that rule, too, if you know you are going to need to build out past that point.)
  • After each coat is dry take your empty spackle knife and scrape it up over any clumps or globs that have dried.  This will remove them and ensure a flat surface for your next coat.  Indentations are totally fine because they are easy to fill in, it is the little specs that will cause you trouble.  Here I’m moving the knife upwards and you can see the little specs accumulating.

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  • I go over the entire surface with my bare hands to feel for any random spots that might not be smooth, sometimes they’re easier to feel than see, but they will definitely show up when painted.  That’s what I was doing in that shot above where I put the dotted line through the picture.  And here’s a snap shot for comparison of an edge that is partially sanded completely.  It is a very slight difference, but once painted you would definitely be able to see where that spackle line is on the bottom part, whereas the top part is totally smooth sailing.

installing drywallSo, um, yeah.  Probably more than you ever cared to know about drywall but I really am proof that anyone can do it.  Over multiple years of trial and error I’ve found a process that consistently works for me … even if Joel doesn’t think it’s efficient.

I don’t see him volunteering to take over.  :)

must know tips for anyone preparing to work on a drywall project

And because it’s been awhile … remember what our little old porch/entry/vestibule looked like when we moved in?

entry before

Yowza!  I had even forgotten about that extra doorway.  How quickly the ugly is erased from my memory.  :)

And that same spot from a slightly farther away view now.

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If you missed all of the ceiling drywall tipsdrywall finishing tips and inexpensive wall repair tips and you’re getting ready to tackle your own drywall project they are also worth a read.  But take a minute first, you’ve earned it for getting through this.  :)

 

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About Karah

I'm Karah and I'm so glad you're here! I'm a small town girl from the North East who finds myself moving around with my husband and pups every few years and constantly on a journey to make the most of every space we find ourselves in. That little space between what has been and what will be. It'd be so cool if you'd like to join us for the ride.
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5 Responses to my thoughts on installing drywall when you’re working with wonky walls

  1. Wow – I can tell you have worked hard on the drywall. I think I would NEED help, lots of help. Thanks for the tips – you really did a great job – we know your hubby thinks so too.

  2. Sandra says:

    The end looks awesome!!

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